tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post1877368539291330905..comments2012-08-29T00:01:11.329-04:00Comments on Beneath Stone Skies: MythologyThe Gargoylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12720467104720529276noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-22828474836414350772012-01-25T23:13:42.746-05:002012-01-25T23:13:42.746-05:00You know I actually thought about that after I hit...You know I actually thought about that after I hit publish, however I did not feel like replacing an entire comment simply to add a single item to the list.<br /><br />I can accept the idea the intelligence lies in how we act, and not just what we make, but again I feel as though you are blanketing society. Surely there are plenty of idoits out there, I concede that in full, and sometimes there are enough of them to drown out those with voices of reason, but that does not mean those do not exist. In fact your entire central paragraph can be used in support of my conclusion in the proper context. Those with the self inflicted disorders are people who have remainded igronrant, often times willfully and despite ample opportunities ariseing for education. Those are the people smoking their way to lung cancer, drinking their way to liver failure, and eating their way to heart desiase and diabetes, the people who choose to ignore all of the studies and data and <i>information</i> that could help them overcome or avoid these troubles. People do <i>not</i> always search out information, our problem is not that we are a society consumed with information, but rather that we are one consumed with immediate physical reward, and will gladly accecpt ignorance if it furthurs that goal. While some intellectuals have created short term problems from seeking to know more, some of the same intellectuals have created long term solutions through the art of further study. It is not their fault, at least not entierly, they may still hold some of the blame, that the general populace ignores their advice because it is less ammusing or conveint for a breif period of time. <br /><br />We are not a race they has elected to set ourselves on fire, meerly one that has studied fire more closely than we should have. Sometimes, as a result, we have found ourselves caught and burned by the flames, but before that exposure we were not aware of water's ability to douse it, even if discovering this fact took longer on some occasions than was worth the initial investigation.<br /><br />I also offer to you this final argument for the pursuit of knowledge: whether or not it was a wise idea to open Pandora's Box (in whatever personal or scientific feild you wish to apply the metaphor to), it is too late to close it. The beggining of the damaging effects can already be felt and seen, and ceasing any furthur pursuit of the truth will not end those problems. Our only hope is to dig even deeper into knowledge, in the hopes that the soultion to the problems we have created is buried deeper underneath (as it has been before, on occasion). Even the origonal myth states that after all of the hate and greed and sorrow of Pandora's Box was unleashed on the world, there was still one final thing tucked away in the corner at the bottom: Hope. As much as I hate myself for sounding idealistic and sappy, hope is the reason we keep finding knowledge, the reason we continue to study after all we've learned has brought us so much harm. Becuase, sometimes, when you're really lucky, you'll discover a secret that changes everything, and when we've already unleashed so much misery, sometimes we need something that changes everything.<br /><br />It is a true <i>pleasure</i> debating with you, Nightscream, I do so enjoy a good debate. It's almost a shame you abandoned your former postion as a teacher to take up your current vocation, but then I suppose I would likely never have encountered you. Therefore I will accecpt societies loss as my gain, I'm looking forward to your reply.<br /><br />See you around<br />-FreedomCagedFreedomCagedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134996398166499193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-563226653464500492012-01-25T20:57:38.815-05:002012-01-25T20:57:38.815-05:00Now, now, you can't put together a Destruction...Now, now, you can't put together a Destruction List and name things such as necular power and gunpower while leaving out the Particle Accelerator. The possibilities of disaster <i>there</i> are nearly endless!<br /><br />I do see your point... but I would offer this: True Intelligence is not just measured in what we create. It's in what we do with <i>ourselves</i>. How we think and live day to day. We may have an exploding population (that is smothering out Agriculture. Goodbye, food supply.), but we have never been sicker. We are laced with diseases, cancers, anxiety disorders, mental disorders, eating disorders, digestive disorders... the list goes on and on. All these factors are on a rise, my friend. They aren't stopping. And why would that be? It wasn't a bomb that was dropped. We're doing this to ourselves. All the chemicals. All the toxins. The lifestyles. We do it every day. Because it is convenient. Because we are too keenly focused on the Great Answer to the same old riddle to take the time to figure out consequences <i>before</i> we are gagging on them. <br /><br />We are a race... that has always chosen to light itself on fire to decide whether or not it is a good idea. That, my friend, is stupidity. And some of the most intelligent minds on the planet lead the way.Nightscreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241679908254552393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-23197372564671579222012-01-25T00:57:51.980-05:002012-01-25T00:57:51.980-05:00I'll concede that, though the human race is no...I'll concede that, though the human race is not its individuals. In fact, in the grand scheme of things, we are actually more effecient at saving lives then we are at ending them, things like bullets and bombs are barely able to keep up with the population exlosion we've been seeing due to new medicines, foods, treatments, and other technologies that play perherial roles in their development and distribution. Even things that are used to destroy, like planes, necular power, and even gunpowder have uses (sometimes even their primary or inital uses) that are benefical or neutral. Humanity may have plenty of stupidity among its members, but it also has plenty of clever people. Those that explore and exploit knowledge include both types, and sometimes what the truely intelligent discover might be worth what the more base minded use it for. Maybe we will all end up destroying each other becuase of something we find, but we were doing a very good job of dieing off and killing each other before we started exploring knowledge, and sometimes the knowldege is worth it.<br /><br />Sometimes.<br /><br />See you aorund<br />-FreedomCagedFreedomCagedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134996398166499193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-53625422930053597202012-01-25T00:32:58.923-05:002012-01-25T00:32:58.923-05:00Actually, I find stupidity just as common in "...Actually, I find stupidity just as common in "intellectuals" than the opposite side of the scale. Sometimes more so. So quenching the thirst isn't going to solve much, in my opinion. All the human race tends to do for every shred of "wisdom" it gets is create better, faster, more efficient ways of killing themselves or each other.<br /><br />I suppose that in itself could be considered a decent goal, no?Nightscreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241679908254552393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-89628513918818788652012-01-24T23:10:12.644-05:002012-01-24T23:10:12.644-05:00The point about being ignorant is that you aren...The point about being ignorant is that you aren't informed enough to know you should leave it alone. The only way we can get over being stupid <i>is</i> our thirst for knowledge, but like you said that pursiut has given us as much harm as good. Glory and Shame, again and again, in the end we all have to pay for our information somehow. Sometimes you just have to wonder: is it all worth it?<br /><br />See you around<br />-FreeFreedomCagedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134996398166499193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-3143039770447544552012-01-24T21:43:58.981-05:002012-01-24T21:43:58.981-05:00Stupidity... and the thirst for knowledge. Two fac...Stupidity... and the thirst for knowledge. Two factors that have driven Mankind into glory and shame time and time again.<br /><br />Which actually reminds me (because just saying the modern short and simple version is so overused)...<br /><br />"Yet ah! Why should they know their fate?<br />Since sorrow never comes too late,<br />And happiness too swiftly flies.<br />Thought would destroy their paradise.<br />No more; where ignorance is bliss,<br />'Tis folly to be wise."<br /><br />~ Thomas GrayNightscreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241679908254552393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-85615759567412669272012-01-24T17:05:21.946-05:002012-01-24T17:05:21.946-05:00Ugh. I don't want to know. I'm not gonna w...Ugh. I don't want to know. I'm not gonna work for any of the bastards. I've had enough of my life being toyed with, thanks.Elainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00048876437455838401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-8687302023298631382012-01-24T15:45:11.233-05:002012-01-24T15:45:11.233-05:00Makes you wonder which player wants you to stay on...Makes you wonder which player wants you to stay on the table... Who benefits most from your actions?The Gargoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720467104720529276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-24278823468268470612012-01-24T15:43:02.026-05:002012-01-24T15:43:02.026-05:00Perhaps my greatest mistake... and yet so amusing ...Perhaps my greatest mistake... and yet so amusing given how I used to wonder what would drive a person to open Pandora's Box.<br /><br />Stupidity seems to be the answer every time.The Gargoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720467104720529276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-21689616069333811192012-01-23T22:44:54.390-05:002012-01-23T22:44:54.390-05:00That's one hell of a scary fucking thought. Th...That's one hell of a scary fucking thought. Though I guess I'll take some small comfort in the idea that the misbehavior of me-a piece slendershit's claimed early and tried to reclaim often, is probably costing him some points.<br /><br />I guess it doesn't surprise me, I've gotten pretty damn convinced that I'm just a game to him, that's why he keeps letting me get away. I can't help but wonder what'll happen when he doesn't anymore.Elainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00048876437455838401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-56124939306160339972012-01-23T20:49:57.096-05:002012-01-23T20:49:57.096-05:00It has always come rather naturally to me. No clas...It has always come rather naturally to me. No classes required. Lucky you, hm? Although, I must admit, it never does fail to amaze me how many people are unsettled and irritated by simply truth.<br /><br />You've done nothing but dig into the activities of our Father, my friend. Your head hasn't been above the Rabbit Hole for quite some time. Granted, you're still an observer, for the most part... but if you had wanted to stay above, you would have deleted that email instead of opening it.Nightscreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241679908254552393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-56664823720910253632012-01-23T20:00:55.479-05:002012-01-23T20:00:55.479-05:00@Nightscream - Heh, making me feel so dreadfully u...@Nightscream - Heh, making me feel so dreadfully uninformed again. Do you take classes in this stuff when you become a Proxy or is it just something you figure out over time? Personally, I'd say I've been trying to keep my head ABOVE the rabbit hole, but something seems to keep dragging me down... Ah well...<br /><br /><br />@The Overseer - Oh dear... clearly my concentration is shot. I'll fix that. You'd think I'd have noticed that with as many times as I paused to link back to your blog...<br /><br />In any event, yes, I can't say I necessarily disagree with you. Exploit what resources you have. Though your efforts for unification may have been hampered by this reveal, you must admit. Though for myself... I'll admit, I'm intrigued.The Gargoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720467104720529276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-30021298994357246642012-01-23T19:42:34.650-05:002012-01-23T19:42:34.650-05:00I think you'll find it's Overseer.
Observ...I think you'll find it's Overseer.<br /><br />Observer makes me sound like I'm that Borg Collective Imitator harrasing Noah.<br /><br />As for this. We will never understand the rules because we are the game. Would you explain the rules to the inanimate objects upon a board game? We would not and therefore They will not. Unless that can be used to further The Game.<br /><br />We should feel honoured that they are curious enough to use us in such a way. Because the day They end this game is the day we lose any point in remaining alive to them.<br /><br />Therefore working with them now, unifying is the best course for survival.The Overseerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16271239317197984991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-8448158035746405762012-01-23T18:08:28.134-05:002012-01-23T18:08:28.134-05:00It's not a matter of how deep the good old Rab...It's not a matter of how deep the good old Rabbit Hole goes, sweetheart.<br /><br />It's a matter of how far down you'll let yourself drop until you decide you've seen enough. Until you jam your arms and legs against the walls to stop. Praying you actually do. Making yourself believe you've reached the bottom. Because you honestly don't want to believe it could get any darker. Any more twisted. Any more frightening. You just want to close your eyes and pretend...<br /><br />And, quite honestly, that's the best thing to do. You can't comprehend The Game anymore than you can win it. You can't gather the pieces together and decide what the Final Test is. You can't put our logic into a Game designed by those who have never and will never exist in line by our own reasoning. Their Game is too vast a picture for us. Too complex. All we can hope to do is gain enough knowledge in ONE tiny piece of it to secure ourselves... and pray we studied the correct materials to save our lives when our own Tests are placed before us.<br /><br />Trust me. Through all these blogs from so many people... we haven't seen <i>anything</i> yet.Nightscreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241679908254552393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-3327362871043728552012-01-23T17:37:14.399-05:002012-01-23T17:37:14.399-05:00@Dia - Ah, and that would make sense I suppose. Fi...@Dia - Ah, and that would make sense I suppose. Fits right in to what I was saying to begin with too... XP Bweh...<br /><br />@Cage - This would also make sense. Another part of the "neutrality" that allowed you safe passage in and out other week, perhaps?The Gargoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720467104720529276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-57977427268922843882012-01-23T16:54:14.181-05:002012-01-23T16:54:14.181-05:00The existance of a game was ovbious fairly early o...The existance of a game was ovbious fairly early on, before I was even aware of the other players. If there's a game, then there are rules, if there are rules they can be exploited. My current status was largely a result of luck, yes, but would you really expect me to make it this far without learning of the <i>existance</i> of a big picture? Regardless, the short answer is that I've known enough about it since before I began blogging, and admidatly I've only learned a little more since then, but what I've found has been well worth it.<br /><br />See you around<br />-CageFreedomCagedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134996398166499193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-57183488778964289162012-01-23T16:42:57.479-05:002012-01-23T16:42:57.479-05:00....Free, since when the hell do you know about th.......Free, since when the hell do you know about that?!Dia Renaldahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427770216623216447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-61350753414042426072012-01-23T16:37:57.678-05:002012-01-23T16:37:57.678-05:00The rules are just as complex as the players, to m...The rules are just as complex as the players, to my knowledge, and you have know them to survive the game. I only know a handful (for the record none of them are "get up high" the rules the peices make have little effect on the players), but with enough information you can spin the rules in your favor. It's like one giant convoluted game of chess, and we're all pawns. The importnat thing to remember, though, is what happens when a pawn makes it to the other side of the board.<br /><br />See you around<br />-FreeFreedomCagedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134996398166499193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-68000151641630196292012-01-23T16:32:40.430-05:002012-01-23T16:32:40.430-05:00The point is that we don't know the rules. We ...The point is that we don't know the rules. We aren't playing. They are, with us, and what happens now is supposedly what determines what happens.Dia Renaldahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427770216623216447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-70795835819450525282012-01-23T16:31:23.657-05:002012-01-23T16:31:23.657-05:00If that's the case, then maybe they could do a...If that's the case, then maybe they could do a better job of explaining the rules? Or is it supposed to be one of those games where figuring out the rules is half the battle? In which case, fuck the ever loving hell out of them.The Gargoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720467104720529276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043247605203567916.post-71627293480325799622012-01-23T16:10:28.756-05:002012-01-23T16:10:28.756-05:00There is a theory floating around, that the Fears ...There is a theory floating around, that the Fears are merely the Old Gods that have started playing games with humanity again. This time, in a much more deadly attempt to see if we pass the 'test' to deserve the lives we lead. The Game.<br /><br />To my knowledge, we're failing the Game.Dia Renaldahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427770216623216447noreply@blogger.com